I just saw a troubling comment on a gifset of Antiope and her badass three-arrow stunt shot at the three german soldiers on the beach. I love that moment as much as anyone. However, this comment referred to her ‘killing Nazis’. And those men were not Nazis.
Wonder Woman is set in WW1. Hitler would not come to power for over a decade after WW1 ended. Fascism had not yet become a political force in Europe. In fact, Germany’s treatment as a defeated aggressor instead of as an equal party in the armistice negotiations – and later the Treaty of Versailles – despite the Allies’ equal culpability for the war, directly contributed to the rise of fascism and nationalism in Germany.
Stop calling the German soldiers in Wonder Woman Nazis. One of the greatest tragedies of WW1 is that the soldiers on both sides of the trenches were hungry, young, sick, poor men, who had no stake in the war. This article talks about the experiences (at least early in the war) of both sides on the Western front meeting on no man’s land and finding little difference between one another.
There’s a lot to love about Wonder Woman, and I very much enjoyed it. I also loved the points in the movie when the violence done by Americans and British – such as when Diana speaks to Chief about the death of his people – were addressed as well, but they were brief. The presentation of Germans As The Bad Guys – especially since Aries’ influence was inconsistent as a plot point – has led to people mistakenly reading it as a movie about Nazis, when the Nazis did not exist in 1918. A WW1 setting does not sustain a narrative of one side being ‘heroic’ and the other ‘villainous’, especially if one takes into account the atrocities both sides had committed during the quarter century leading up to the armistice. It troubles me that this movie allows WW1 German soldiers to be read as Nazis.
Please stop referring to Nazis in the context of Wonder Woman.
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I think this lends to an underlying point that Aries was trying to cause chaos on all sides apparently including the audience
As Steve points out in the movie, World War I isnothing like World War II… the whole thing was just a big mess…there was no one country that was on the “right” side, just callous people in power all over the world sending kids off to get massacred and not caring about the damage it was doing and the lives it was destroying
It’s worth noting that Steve’s side isn’t really shown to be any more “Right” or heroic than the Germans are…while Ludendorf and Dr Poison are cetrainly villains as well, when we meet them the people in charge on Steve’s side they’re a bunch of clueless, cruel, self important, sexist old men who don’t care about the troops on their own side which is pretty much 100% accurate to what World War I was like…the people giving the orders back then were all basically General Melchett from Blackadder Goes Fourth except even less rational…hell the only person who showed ANY compassion among those in power on Steve’s side turns out to be the GOD OF WAR and only be doing it to further his own evil plans
Diana doesn’t side with any country in the conflict either…she works with Steve and the team he puts together because they’re good people not because they’re not German…
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WONDER WOMAN IS TRANS
HALF THE AMAZONIANS ARE TRANS
HALF THE AMAZONIANS ARE TRANS WONDER WOMAN IS A CANON TRANS LADY
IVE NEVER FELT MORE AWAKE IN MY LIFE WONDER WOMAN CONFIRMED TRANS LADY HALF OF THE AMAZONIANS ARE CONFIRMED TRANS ALL THE CIS PEOPLE OFFENDED BY THIS CAN SUCK MY ASS
I’ve seen some comments of Wonder Woman,
basically on the extent to which it is alternative history, if Wonder Woman’s
involvement in WW1 was hushed up, if it
could be hushed up, if the rumours of a superhuman warrior queen never
spread because the people she saved ended up dying, or if her involvement is
widely known, a historical fact, etc.
And it’s a cool question, and I hope people will
write the same quasi-historical, quasi-journalistic fics about her that they
wrote about Captain America.
At the same time, WW1 mythology was fucking
unbelievable. I’m not an expert, but I worked with someone who was, and I’m not
kidding, very bored but very scared people come up with some exceptionally
weird shit. Contemporary reporting of WW1 was already a mess of understatement
and overstatement. If you want to calm the panic on the home front, you’ll
write about how our soldiers laugh in the face of machine guns, and mustard gas
is just a minor inconvenience. If you want to motivate people, you’ll tell them
the enemy desecrates altars and murder babies for fun. People were told conflicting things about the
confusing terror they experienced.
Partly as a result of this, partly as a result
of shock upon shock, people who were in the middle of it came up with the
weirdest shit, truly. There were tons of stories about stone statues on churches
who came to life, either to protect the inhabitants or to predict the end of
the war. Overall, very many things prophesied the end of the war: spontaneously
breaking glassware, blessed infants who spoke immediately after birth, all
sorts of dreams and visitations. A flying woman with a shield was not the
slightest bit out of place in the trenches. Catholics would probably assume she
was the Blessed Virgin Mary, some Brits would probably say she was Britannia
herself, and after the war was over, nobody would be quite sure if they really
did see her, or if they just really, really needed to see something to give
them the strength to walk out into No Man’s Land.
i feel like wonder woman could get away with throwing batman over her shoulder to carry him away exactly once, just because she would have the element of surprise. batman prepares for everything but there are limits. if you were batman would you ever in a million years expect a woman who is two inches shorter than you in one-inch heels to just pick you up and leave like she’s carrying a bag of sand to build a wall. like you are the victim of a cartoon caveman from the fifties. i postulate that you would not. maybe in her arms like a lumberjack’s bride, but a fireman’s carry? while he is not only conscious, but entirely capable of moving under his own power? this is the one scenario that batman never prepared for and he suffers the consequences. she could never get away with it again and so she doesn’t even try but from that moment on the possibility is always in the back of his mind. he is on alert. he wants her to try again so he can prove it won’t work this time. she never gives him the satisfaction. he can never explain to anyone how he is suffering. no one will understand. he stands on a rooftop in the rain and broods.
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