What is wrong with mint and mint relatives? Thank you.

elodieunderglass:

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naamahdarling:

elodieunderglass:

dirtycorzaharkness:

bkwrm523:

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elodieunderglass:

eminenceofiyanola:

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voidbat:

nehirose:

semianonymity:

elodieunderglass:

They’re lovely, but they MUST be kept in a pot, or a raised bed, or on a good-quality leash with a chest harness, because mint and its cousins spread like… IDEK, like a rash. Like dandelions. They’re tough, hardy and highly motivated. Even a tiny root fragment will suddenly turn into a Mint Tree if you don’t tear it up. I swear I’ve seen new plants popping up from BURIED SCRAPS OF LEAF. Once they’re in the ground they establish a beachhead and spawn secretly, possibly through osmosis. I cannot advise you to stick a mint plant in the ground unless you are a bold and unconventional disciplinarian.

The joke is that after running around after the mint like a spaniel chasing a whack-a-mole for a year, Dr Glass then planted a plant that would do the same thing.

Great plants, hard to kill, keep them in a pot (ESPECIALLY where invasive)

I would really recommend against planting mint in raised beds, and also, if in a pot, DO NOT PUT THE POT ON SOIL. The pot needs to be on rock or concrete. Otherwise the roots will head straight for freedom through the drainage holes, and you will Never Be Free.

of course, on the other hand, if you’re at all inclined to pettiness expressed via herbology, mint makes a GREAT vehicle for plant-based vengeance.

i have absolutely thrown mint roots into the perfectly manicured lawns of people i hate.

An ever growing mint plant appearing in my lawn would seem like the opposite of a problem to me?

They’re invasive, which means if they’re anywhere in your garden or manicured areas they could ruin the other plants, I think? But yeah I’d love to have a damn mint plant in my yard sounds ideal.

Has anyone ever thought of just having a lawn of mint instead of grass? Like how you have moss lawns?

… I am not judging!! but I don’t think the people in the notes who are like “oh a mint lawn would be lovely!” have met mint!

You know what would be a lovely herbal lawn? Chamomile. Because it’s a damn compact, densely-growing, hardy, winter-green perennial that’s springy underfoot, smells nice when you walk on it, and has some basic manners. Lawn chamomile is plushy and soft and produces tiny pretty daisy-looking flowers. It naturally stays at pretty much the height you would want grass to be, and then you can cut it and it goes “fair enough.”

Mint is not any of those things. Mint is leggy, patchy, muddy and rampageous. It grows randomly and fitfully. It bullies other plants. It sends runners into the neighbor’s houses and across the street and it barks at the postman. Your mint lawn would look like a poorly tended graveyard AND THEN IN THE WINTER IT WOULD DIE, DRAMATICALLY, and ROT
THERE. It would outcompete native plants and eat your vegetable garden alive. It is so wet and stalky that it would be dreadful to trim, and when you trimmed it, it would scab over and sulk. It would refuse to grow where it was put (the lawn) and would instead show up in places you don’t want it (the patio, the sidewalk, your intrusive thoughts.) IT IS AN INVASIVE PLANT, WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO YOUR FAMILY

It’s like asking why people don’t make lawns out of cabbages, or hyenas, or the cold virus. BECAUSE THEN IT WOULDN’T BE A LAWN OR A GARDEN

Things are heating up in the herb fandom.

Reblogging because this conversation deserves to be shared with tumblr; Chris Pike would totally give mint as a gift to someone he hated as revenge.

I am really curious as to where @elodieunderglass is from. Because, well, the thing about invasive species is that they are only invasive in some areas.

And I can attest to being able to *kill* mint plants where I live. Ones out in the yard and everything, and they certainly aren’t on my areas list.

I’m from New England, USA. I live in Old England, Europe.

The thing with mint is that it’s not necessarily a lot of Invasive Species watch lists, it’s *an* invasive – an unscientific and loose term for things whose natural history and reproductive habits mean they can quickly outcompete native organisms. It isn’t An Invasive Plant ™ in its native soils, which are around Europe and the MENA region. Instead, it behaves invasively, like bindweed.

Mint’s brilliant, admirable secret is its long runners, or horizontal water-seeking roots. A tiny sprig will produce extremely long underground runners that can be many feet long. If a runner encounters a water source, it can suck it up and feed the host plant (so a mint plant growing in the middle of barren concrete may be slurping up water from a garden across the street, or a leaking pipe under the sidewalk, or possibly Neptune.) and each runner can also pop up a stalk in a new location, creating a new plant. A section of runner or other root is perfectly capable of making a new plant, so a fragment of buried root in a neighbor’s garden could result in a mint popping up in your patio. Mint also spreads by seed, so it disperses very efficiently.

Why is this a problem? Eh, it’s not really. It’s simply doing what’s in its nature. I always advocate for that. But it will outcompete your garden in most conditions – I.e if your other herbs want water, mint will steal it out from under them. It’s a water hog, as simple as that. In dry conditions or climates it will politely limit itself to places where it is given water, but if you start watering another part of the garden – maybe you want to cultivate a rose, or an olive tree – the mint will magically show up there, banging its water dish and looking expectant. And it will say “I had a secret runner that went here, Just In Case.” And you’ll say “fair enough, you mad bastard.”

But you’re right, my terminology was unclear. It’s a confusing way to use it and I won’t do it again

This Mint Discourse is the karmic price I must pay, since two years ago my husband chucked a mint plant into the field of a farmer he didn’t like, and I… Reader, I let him do it

Thank you all for warning me not to plant “a little mint” around the side of the house because it would be “nice to have around”.

Thank you all again for letting me know that this is a credible form of botanical terrorism.

CHOICE EXCERPTS:

  • they establish a beachhead and spawn secretly, possibly through osmosis
  • like a spaniel chasing a whack-a-mole for a year
  • pettiness expressed via herbology,
  • plant-based vengeance
  • i have absolutely thrown mint roots into the perfectly manicured lawns of people i hate.
  • [Chamomile] has some basic manners
  • Mint is… rampageous. It bullies other plants…. It barks at the postman
  • like a poorly tended graveyard
  • It’s like asking why people don’t make lawns out of cabbages, or hyenas, or the cold virus
  • so a mint plant growing in the middle of barren concrete may be slurping up water from a garden across the street, or a leaking pipe under the sidewalk, or possibly Neptune.
  • In dry conditions or climates it will politely limit itself to places where it is given water, but if you start watering another part of the garden – maybe you want to cultivate a rose, or an olive tree – the mint will magically show up there,
  • banging its water dish and looking expectant
  • “fair enough, you mad bastard.”
  • This Mint Discourse is the karmic price I must pay, since two years ago my husband chucked a mint plant into the field of a farmer he didn’t like, and I… Reader, I let him do it
  • credible form of botanical terrorism.

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